Exchange Of Letter With AIBEA

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 10:32 AM
C H VENKATACHALAM <chv.aibea@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Shri Shukla,

We have been receiving frequent communications from you on matters relating to retirees and we can understand your anxiety.  But please note that it does not give you any liberty to make any type of allegations on UFBU.  UFBU constituents are aware of the issues and will do what is possible by them.  There are so many constraints beyond the control of UFBU which may not be in your knowledge and hence passing comments and observations is easier for you.

We take strong exception to expressions like -  leaders have become impotent, just stooges & puppets of IBA. They are just boot lickers, corrupt and totally in IBA lap.

All our unions are democratic organisations and their members know about their leaders.

UFBU and its unions have their  wisdom to deal with the issues .  Whenever we are short of it, we will approach you and borrow some wisdom.

Till then we are sorry we cannot entertain such correspondence and cannot give any congnisance to the same.  Hence please stop sending such communicaitons to us.

C H VENKATACHALAM
GENERAL SECRETARY AIBEA

Reply dt 12.11.2019
Dear Sri Venkatachalam,

Thanks for your response and noted the contents.

Yes, we have been sending certain communications based on facts & circumstances that prevail on ground. What has irked you, that's the feeling & belief of working fraternity across banking, not mine, please bear with it, there is nothing personal.

Yes, we know UFBU does not take  cognizance of such letters. It's their wisdom. You too shouldn't have taken any cognizance, as well. We can't force one to take cognizance. But, it reflects arrogance and high headedness, unbecoming of trade union ethic & culture.

We understand the difficulties of UFBU. IBA's difficulties are the difficulties of UFBU. We don't know the compulsions of UFBU to carry the baggage of IBA!. Has UFBU- IBA same interest or different constituencies to represent with?! It's not our individual problem, but of entire workforce and retirees that they don't know the problems that you show before UFBU. Better, it is explained and put in banking fraternity.

We don't run any Knowledge Bank or do lending business. We are not trader or broker. Bank men look to & believe in the wisdoms of their Unions and leaders. However, they are dismayed to note, their leaders have gone bankrupt and turned their back from the assigned jobs. Are they (bank men)  wrong, if they express their feelings, aspirations and in case not heard off, they resort to out burst? If it's a democratic order, let the views be expressed and heard unhindered. Hope, UFBU shouldn't shut doors or windows or choke the throat of banking fraternity.

Hope, UFBU take cognizance of bank men issues. Bank men means working and retirees. Whether reply or not, it has no relevance, but address their issues. They are not interested in replies. You should have avoided to take trouble, as matters rest with UBFU. But, we thank you for the trouble you took in this regard.

We reiterate, the things which do not make a sense are called nonsense, whether ours or others. Sorry, if you read our communiqués otherwise than the way it was.

Greetings,

( J. N. Shukla)
Prayagraj
12.11.2019

[11/13, 08:05] J N Shukla Dena Bank: On Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 10:32 AM C H VENKATACHALAM <chv.aibea@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Shri Shukla,

We have been receiving frequent communications from you on matters relating to retirees and we can understand your anxiety.  But please note that it does not give you any liberty to make any type of allegations on UFBU.  UFBU constituents are aware of the issues and will do what is possible by them.  There are so many constraints beyond the control of UFBU which may not be in your knowledge and hence passing comments and observations is easier for you. 

We take strong exception to expressions like -  leaders have become impotent, just stooges & puppets of IBA. They are just boot lickers, corrupt and totally in IBA lap. 

All our unions are democratic organisations and their members know about their leaders. 

UFBU and its unions have their  wisdom to deal with the issues .  Whenever we are short of it, we will approach you and borrow some wisdom.

Till then we are sorry we cannot entertain such correspondence and cannot give any congnisance to the same.  Hence please stop sending such communicaitons to us.

C H VENKATACHALAM
GENERAL SECRETARY AIBEA


Reply dt 12.11.2019
Dear Sri Venkatachalam,

Thanks for your response and noted the contents.

Yes, we have been sending certain communications based on facts & circumstances that prevail on ground. What has irked you, that's the feeling & belief of working fraternity across banking, not mine, please bear with it, there is nothing personal.

Yes, we know UFBU does not take  cognizance of such letters. It's their wisdom. You too shouldn't have taken any cognizance, as well. We can't force one to take cognizance. But, it reflects arrogance and high headedness, unbecoming of trade union ethic & culture.

We understand the difficulties of UFBU. IBA's difficulties are the difficulties of UFBU. We don't know the compulsions of UFBU to carry the baggage of IBA!. Has UFBU- IBA same interest or different constituencies to represent with?! It's not our individual problem, but of entire workforce and retirees that they don't know the problems that you show before UFBU. Better, it is explained and put in banking fraternity.

We don't run any Knowledge Bank or do lending business. We are not trader or broker. Bank men look to & believe in the wisdoms of their Unions and leaders. However, they are dismayed to note, their leaders have gone bankrupt and turned their back from the assigned jobs. Are they (bank men)  wrong, if they express their feelings, aspirations and in case not heard off, they resort to out burst? If it's a democratic order, let the views be expressed and heard unhindered. Hope, UFBU shouldn't shut doors or windows or choke the throat of banking fraternity.

Hope, UFBU take cognizance of bank men issues. Bank men means working and retirees. Whether reply or not, it has no relevance, but address their issues. They are not interested in replies. You should have avoided to take trouble, as matters rest with UBFU. But, we thank you for the trouble you took in this regard.

We reiterate, the things which do not make a sense are called nonsense, whether ours or others. Sorry, if you read our communiqués otherwise than the way it was.

Greetings,


( J. N. Shukla)
Prayagraj
12.11.2019
 J N Shukla Dena Bank: न गर्व और न पूर्वाग्रह,
सिर्फ आग्रह
NEITHER PRIDE
NOR
PREDILECTIONS,
ONLY  APPEAL
( Friends, it's SOS message to UFBU & it's other Constituent Unions. Please flash it to all your friends. Let us make all possible efforts to deal with them with all out might.)

Shri S. K. Babdlish,
Convenor,
UFBU,
Chandigarh

&

Constituent Unions:

Dear Sir,

A day before 15th Nov.2019, when you are scheduled to meet IBA with your team, we write this mail under total despair due to unfair treatment being met to bank men, whether they are in job or retired. Though, a very obnoxious narrative has been offered that you don't give cognizance to such correspondence or reply. Your reply is not very much important that way, as it's not the God message, but bank men desire their work done for which they pay you money and respect as well. We think, you shouldn't be deceitful to most faithful people, which bank men are.

Bank men across country and cadre, working or retired, look forward to positive development in their core issues, which we have raised in our letter/ mail dated 10th followed with another mail dated 12th instant. Arrogance from any quarter doesn't help resolve issues or restore trembling/ shaking confidence of bank men in trade Unions & leaders. Bank men has chosen unions & leaders of their choice to look after their problems and in turn bestow them best regards and recognitions. How could they be so hostile to bank men interests and behave like  dictator with banking fraternity? Or, say categorically not to take cognizance of their messages?

You know your incapabilities, failures guilts and unethical practices and agreement or strength, so one need not to script the same. You have raptured & wrapped Pensioners' interests through capricious and deceitful deals with IBA, it's none of secret. Retirees are worst victim, left in financial distress and to die of diseases in absence of any health care support from Banks, despite govt directive. Who are these Retirees? Did they fight many crucial battles including for Pension Scheme under pioneering role of Unions only for this day? How same Unions can now ignore them and treat unfairly? How the needs working & reyirees are evaluated on human parameters by different scales? Whose need is greater, fully paid working staff or meagerly paid retirees? Who deserves more welfare measures, those who are well paid- as you say- or poor retirees? Who needs greater health problems, young working staff or retirees? How UFBU or it's Unions can be so inhuman, ruthless and brut that they left aged and ailing people on the mercy of God?

Bank men just want to know your compulsions under which such a situation has been surged. Bank men want to know the 'constraints' beyond your control, as pointed out by one if your constituents. Are these not taken as lame excuses to cover 'willful' decisions against the interests of working and retired employees?.

Bank men never want you failing. Please, therefore, share the so called 'constraints' with your stake holders. Why the hide & seek play with your members? Be transparent, clear, clean and fair to them. It will help bank men to understand your constraints under which you operate. Otherwise, bank men take you enjoying & mery making on unions wealth and at the largesse of IBA. But if you work in deceitful manner, you become mysterious and doubtful. It is sheer apathy and a dilemma that bank men do not know the level of progress made in last 2 and a half year, except squabble on your turf to for supremacy.

Dilip Ray very rightly made a comment: 'a tree is known by d fruits it bears. Observing d attitude & d role of UFBU in d bipartite talk, d apprehension of d Bank men that they r playing second fiddle to IBA can not b whisked away only by denial. It requires to act accordingly in d interest of d staff & retirees to uphold ur clean image'.

Despite war among your constituents, bank men look to UFBU as a source of ultimate hope & their destiny. Therefore, UFBU must preserve it's iconic identity and shouldn't allow constituents to cross their limits and usherp the space of UFBU. Bank men, if they support you, carry out your instructions, they have an inherent right to claim, blame & admire you. You can't disown the truthful facts that you have miserably failed to deliver the desired outcomes. Better, accept it, instead arguing.

One thing more, leaders must note that this is no more old era- later of 20th century- of bank men. It's modern time, highly educated and talented people work in Banking and they are proud to be honest, dedicated and performing. So, leaders shouldn't try to acclaim themselves as some super-cop  and behave with arrogance and swollen heads. Such people are taken as rolling stones of no count by bank men.

We look forward to outcome of tomorrow's meeting. Be frank to throw light to dispel the darkness. Dispel the dark side of IBA & some of your constituent's equation that tarpedoes total well-being of banking fraternity. Better, you take cognizance of IBA's status and review as to how deal in days to come.

Greetings,


( J. N. Shukla)
National Convenor,
Forum of Bank Pensioner Activists
Prayagraj
14.11.2019